Graham Speaks with CNBC Kudlow Report

so I special guests Nonnus wasn't laid by South Carolina Republican senator Lindsey

Graham senator Gramm welcome back to the show Sir I just ask you %HESITATION you know that senator rand Paul is

very much against this and I say he is saying it's a violation of personal liberty it's a violation of the Fourth Amendment he

said Big Brother is spying on you are watching you what is your response to what senator Paul is saying well

content no phone call of yours or mine unless a federal judge authorizes the content to be monitored and

we do have a warrant requirement and this is not an unreasonable search and seizure and by the way were

at war and we need to find out what these guys are up to because if you don't preempt them %HESITATION we're going to pay a heavy price so I'm

very comfortable the legal basis of this program tight you support the program yes deploying a bad senator rand Paul is getting a lot of anger about this as you know it has a lot of supporters on this point what

you're saying is he's wrong because he had left out the %HESITATION fi's that warrant program

is that basically the essence of your disagreement with Paul yes and unreasonable search and seizure is %HESITATION

phone call your phone number and a known terrorist is phone number and I think most Americans one is to try to figure out who the terrorists are talking to throughout the world in

black and wore a Lockley was talking to major song remember that guy major sign Yahoo killed nineteen people at Fort Hood yet he

to email and we miss that so I would tell senator Paul that I do respect civil liberties we do have checks and balances but I believe we're at war NSA

good thing to be trying to find out what terrorists are up to and who they're talking to I don't want to be difficult about this very interview you

mentioned for hood we mess that we also missed the a Boston Marathon yes we did not on Bob so

know clapper and the NSA are saying that it stopped dozens of terrorist attacks and of course the second problem with that is clapper

himself looks like he lied from the congressional committee that our people just don't seem to trust or let me say some

people many people don't seem to trust this story senator Gramm well the %HESITATION the

major Hassan in and while rocky was akin to cation through an email conversation and believe it or not under

this program a known terrorist like Anwar Awlaki because he's an American citizen we can't monitor is email I

program failing it was by then it was a failure of the eight years the homeland security folks not

to notify the FBI and the CI a that this guy had gone back to to drag us into the tears safe haven our

system fail to talk to each other so we need to up our game in if we took this system at

a play and it may have been to start already if we lose the ability to monitor terrorist activity phone calls and emails we

got a warrant requirement protecting us but if we do away with this there were pretty much blind because we don't capture people anymore Larry we