politics rather than what's in the best interest of the outcome which is Victor and that's what happened with the White House they ultimately

I do believe that we need six seriously begin to move forward on a plan that involves not just you especial operations forces but

does not define the strategy of the coalition with respect to does the body is one community and it's a tragedy of what is happening we

their members of NATO they should act like a member of NATO and we're sending an American assessment team Iraq

on the ground to confront them that's one people strip off their uniforms they abandoned ship they abandon their pope well

defeat and you're seeing the results of it you cannot defeat an army on the ground simply from the air and to put all your eggs in the basket of hoping that local ground forces will be able to do the job with

since it's a SUNY force and they can only be permanently defeated by cynicism the United States will have to help put that coalition together but

to me like he's preparing everybody per per failure there that's an absurd statement I'll tell you why imagine for a moment if you are a SUNY or she or for that matter on the ground in Iraq who

the local forces are capable of doing the job himself one last question for you believe that chairman Dempsey is starting to separate from the president on that the

is their support in the Senate for that and it you know is there an organizing principle around that idea what first of all you will not defeat I think from the air someone's going to have to defeat them on the ground the

to you how out of touch they are about this reality they are doing anything they can to disengages from this process by

and some of that will involve potentially special operations forces on the ground to help you targeting not not with the kind of combat and I got some tanks and so forth I'm

Jordana and Turkey and Saudi than all these other country to put some sort of ground element in play that can at least confront these guys and stop the spread and grow until

radical Sunni Islamic caliphate in portions of Syria and Iraq from there they will carry out their plan to

to be trained from the moderate forces in Syria here are we really at the stage where were beginning to assess and

the ground to defeat isis militarily but that will all take time for the short term I